tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post141060033674032248..comments2015-10-15T12:34:10.957-05:00Comments on Renascentes Musae: The Best Way To Learn New Testament Greek? Start With Classical Greek!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post-51441142932090135422012-06-16T05:46:39.192-05:002012-06-16T05:46:39.192-05:00Good post and Smart Blog
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Of course it didn't hurt that I actually spent 2 years at it instead of 2 weeks...!RobbieFishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14112535005437118728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post-45629468195143260422010-05-17T15:19:39.995-05:002010-05-17T15:19:39.995-05:00Indeed. Paul's dictum, that the pastor not be ...Indeed. Paul's dictum, that the pastor not be a neophyte, might well apply here, too. Fortunately, if the seminarians listen and let themselves be formed by the right professors, they can turn out to be responsible theologians in spite of a dearth of learning in Greek & Hebrew (and, as Christian Boehlke points out, Latin). BUT (and here's the big BUTT) it can really go awry, too. Your analogy is good. Another analogy I've used is the medical doctor who gets a crash course (6 weeks) in organic chem before entering med school. Who in the world would allow such a doctor to treat him or her?<br /><br />Up to Pastor Brown's first comment (off of Carl's recommendation), I'm a fan of From Alpha to Omega by A. H. Groton, but then I've got commercial interests in the project, as well (http://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Omega-Ancillary-Exercises/dp/0941051617/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274127056&sr=1-2). And yet, for a "traditional" approach to teaching Greek, I think this is quite good. <br /><br />That said, this is finally my mind: whatever works best for the teacher will work best for the students. If Carl can do Athenaze super well, then great. I expect the results will be tremendous. Likewise with From Alpha to Omega, etc. There are, however, some real dogs out there.<br /><br />And, finally, Carl's point is very well taken and must be that to which we try to steer the church once again. Melanchthon, in one of his many orations, plugs classical Greek because classical Greek is the language God chose to write the NT in BECAUSE it had a cultural capacity unlike any other languages (so PM; make of it what you will). But let us remember that Koine/NT Greek is classical Greek, of a form (just as both Homer and Hdt. and Plato are, though in wildly different dialects). You may master Plato's Greek, but you won't, thereby, have mastered Plato. Same goes with the NT: you can master NT Greek, but that doesn't mean you've really "gotten" the Greek NT. And that, finally, is the point.Jon Brusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08662799113737328806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post-86573022523774912152010-05-17T15:16:52.422-05:002010-05-17T15:16:52.422-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jon Brusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08662799113737328806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post-21468513025027282432010-05-17T14:53:38.057-05:002010-05-17T14:53:38.057-05:00Amen. Amen. Amen. In fact, I sometimes wonder whet...Amen. Amen. Amen. In fact, I sometimes wonder whether we do more harm than good by shoving 2 months worth of "NT" Greek down seminarists' throats and then cutting them loose. More often than not they gain just enough Greek to do some damage, but not enough to do any good. It's like handing a kid a loaded gun and letting him shoot unsupervised. You've got to make sure that he knows what he's doing before you set him loose.Rev. Joshua Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265502288700164812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post-37554505108011691042010-05-17T09:12:48.935-05:002010-05-17T09:12:48.935-05:00I would even suggest that the best way to learn Ne...I would even suggest that the best way to learn New Testament Greek is to learn Classical Greek after learning Classical Latin. In many ways, the learning of Latin sets the foundation for students to study Greek, be it Classical or Koine. I believe that beginning Latin instruction at the elementary school (Grammar School) students will be well prepared to pursue Greek studies and even do them side by side. Above all, the study of Latin and Greek opens to these students the rich tradition of Western Civilization in the original languages.Christian Boehlkenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948298098114337495.post-21246281953759402352010-05-17T06:45:58.179-05:002010-05-17T06:45:58.179-05:00I got my classics degree from OU before heading to...I got my classics degree from OU before heading to the Sem - my class was the last to learn on Crosby and Schaeffer - after us they moved to Athenaze, and although I have not had the opportunity to study or use it directly, every prof I talked to was pleased with it - and the OU faculty wasn't going to move from a 1927 grammar unless they found something better.<br /><br />I would note as well that if someone wants to jump into straight biblical Greek, I'd suggest Clayton Croy's "A Primer of Biblical Greek" - which I have taught to folks here. It is one of the most well organized grammars I have see, and the translation exercises are around 40% Septuagint and 40% New Testament Greek -- the addition of the Septuagint really does improve the overall understanding of Greek that one gains from the book.Rev. Eric J Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17747919365522145094noreply@blogger.com